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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
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Posted - 2015.11.28 00:01:49 -
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Hard barriers, especially timers, are not good game design. Instead, just raise the corp creation cost to something non trivial. Maybe make it multiply if you use it too often.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
15290
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Posted - 2015.11.30 06:35:12 -
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Orca Platypus wrote: Newbies in retrievers without even a single foreman link have about as much effect on economy as house cats on dow jones. Let's face it, if it wasn't worth defending, than it had no economical impact whatsoever, so it wasn't economic warfare, it was just routine attempt to feel good about griefing hisec newbies out of the game.
If only it hadn't already been conclusively shown to us that non consensual PvP has a hugely positive effect on retention.
When you shoot a miner, you're doing them a favor by showing them that parts of this game exist that are actually worth playing.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
15290
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Posted - 2015.11.30 07:20:38 -
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Orca Platypus wrote: grief decs
There is no such thing, Basil. Wardecs are never griefing.
Quote: Eve combat pvp is not worth playing until you are at least 50 million SP
A complete, utter lie. It's people like you who are the real griefers, constantly trying to shut out new players with your vile attitudes and naysaying.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
15291
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Posted - 2015.11.30 07:55:52 -
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Orca Platypus wrote:*snipped out more of his repetitive whining*
Shut up, Basil.
Wardecs are never griefing, harassment, or whatever other tearful bullshit you come up with. If you cannot deal with wars, stop being in a player corp. So long as that option exists at all, you don't have a leg to stand on.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
15291
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Posted - 2015.11.30 07:59:04 -
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Orca Platypus wrote:That is conclusive enough.
No, it doesn't mean anything close to what you're claiming.
Once again, shut up Basil.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
15291
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Posted - 2015.11.30 08:02:14 -
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Orca Platypus wrote: Let me help you: it's not griefing BECAUSE .
Because that particular portion of the TOS requires that someone has made a reasonable effort to get away. And if you don't drop to an NPC corp, you have not made that effort. But then I already said this, you just lack in reading comprehension.
Go ahead and ask a GM sometime. They will tell you that no amount of wars is considered griefing or harassment, and if you can't deal with wars then you need to stop being in a player corp.
It's one of the few things they will give you a consistent answer on. Your self serving, dishonest interpretation of the rules doesn't matter at all.
Wars are never griefing. Certainly not just because your dumb ass thinks they are.
Once again.
Shut up, Basil.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
15291
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Posted - 2015.11.30 08:16:03 -
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Orca Platypus wrote: Wasn't it you crying about it being exploit the last week?
Repeatedly rerolling corps was an exploit for a long time. I believe it should be again.
Quote: Define "reasonable effort to get away"
Actually doing something, instead of doing nothing.
When all else fails, if you have not yet dropped to an NPC corp, you have not made a reasonable effort.
Quote: Is not undocking for a week reasonable effort? Running 10 systems away reasonable effort?
Neither.
Quote:It is not a matter of GM opinion or someone else's opinion.
It's a matter of GM opinion only. Not yours, certainly.
Quote: ToS I and IV say otherwise.
That's just it, they literally don't.
Shut up, Basil.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
15291
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Posted - 2015.11.30 08:30:25 -
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Orca Platypus wrote: So moving next system is a reasonable effort? It's doing something.
No, it's still doing nothing. Defending yourself is doing something, and dropping to an NPC corp is doing something.
Moving one system? You might as well just suspect flag yourself and go afk on the 4-4 undock.
Quote: I stayed up docked for a week to avoid being griefed, was that not a considerable effort?
No. Not at all.
Quote: The rules are clear enough to not be up for opinions.
Exactly. It's just very much not in your favor.
Only their opinion matters, and their opinion is universally against your claims.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
15291
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Posted - 2015.11.30 08:55:32 -
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Orca Platypus wrote: One week you cry about it as an exploit, the other week you're actually... encouraging it?
Wrong. If you aren't being deliberately obtuse, then you're just too dumb to understand it.
Do I really have to explain to you that not playing the game does not constitute having taken any action in your own defense?
Are you really that dense? (don't answer that, I already know you are. You're the numbskull that tried to convince a bunch of newbies that docking was griefing for crying out loud)
Quote: They are not in griefers favor
There are no griefers in wardecs. It is totally in favor of the aggressors, however. If you are still in a player corp, then you have not made a reasonable effort.
Quote: It is clear enough that grief deccing is a violation of ToS I and there is no excuse to it according to ToS IV.
There is no such thing. Wardecs are never griefing.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
15291
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Posted - 2015.11.30 10:17:42 -
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Orca Platypus wrote:You can't have your cake and eat it - either the dodging is an exploit and attacker is exploiting just as defender does, or neither are exploits.
Dec dodging should be an exploit.
And if you don't want to deal with wars, you don't belong in a player corp.
The two are not contradictory.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
15291
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Posted - 2015.11.30 10:36:04 -
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Orca Platypus wrote: The biggest barrier to PvP content is overcoming the crucifying pain of being hit with the SP wall
Which doesn't exist.
So the biggest barrier to PvP content for new players is overcoming poisonous, bullshit attitudes like yours.
Like I said before, it's carebears like you who are the real griefers, trying to force new players to mine for months before they actually play the real game.
Pathetic.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
15293
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Posted - 2015.11.30 11:47:14 -
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Iain Cariaba wrote: Using your logic
Something I don't recommend by the way, unless you have spare brain cells to replace the ones that will die of shock.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
15293
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Posted - 2015.11.30 11:59:49 -
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Did anyone see him contradict his own claims in every paragraph? I feel an equal mixture of shock, amusement and disgust. I call this feeling "Basil'ed", a portmanteau of "baffled, sickened, and chuckled."
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
15293
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Posted - 2015.11.30 12:14:35 -
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I've actually seen the subreddit simulator on r/eve make more sense than Basil.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
15294
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Posted - 2015.11.30 12:47:45 -
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Orca Platypus wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:I've actually seen the subreddit simulator on r/eve make more sense than Basil. "I couldn't put sense into a fool's brain if I tried." (c) Nero Wolfe.
Oh, the irony.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
15295
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Posted - 2015.11.30 14:06:12 -
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Donnachadh wrote:And the answer is still NO I cannot and will not post my proof of this because I will not purposely violate the TOS to prove a point with you.
Ah yes, your tired old bullshit.
You have no proof. None. That's why you cringe behind the forum rules about it. The truth is available for any who want it, though, a ticket is free. I encourage anyone who cares to do so.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
Best Meltdown Ever.
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